Curse

Kurow · Apr 18, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

I hear that if you get a run your palms grow hairy and your eyes melt out...

Ken Dei · Apr 18, 2006, 03:17 AM // 03:17

I don't assume people who get run can't play. I assume that people who get run can't play with the class their being run with.

The whole "I've been through it once, I don't want to do it again" arguement is pretty lame. If that's so WHY did you make another PvE char? Go do PvP and buy new skills.

Oh wait now I see, you're to lazy to work through PvP either. I get it now, then why did you even buy the game?

Finally, please....please, please, please, stop spewing "I bought the game I'll play as I want, it doesn't affect you."

Enrrrr! Wrong!

If you're ignorant of your class because you got run, you just affected my gameplay, by being a walking screw-up with your class. This happens A LOT, countless times I've had to explain the basic principles of how to play a class, even other then my own, to people who were on their 2nd, or even third character because they got runs.

Running, DOES make bad players, and a lot of them.

Lets Get to Healing · Apr 18, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riceboi

it's their I'm

"BTW" isn't a word

You understood it. I'll type as I want.

So if Inc. isnt a word are you gonna tear THAT guys head off too?
Abbreviations, patented of the internet.

strcpy · Apr 18, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Dei

<paraphrase>I hate players who don't think and play like I do</paraphrase>

So says the Wammo (see his currently listed character - a w/mo).

There is something Ironic about this post but I can't seem to place it

Vel Satis · Apr 18, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

I actually agree with Ken. If your first char was a Warrior (for example) and you make a monk or necro (or god forbid, a mesmer) who gets run to the later parts of the game you're not going to have a clue what you're doing.

EternalTempest · Apr 18, 2006, 07:03 AM // 07:03

You should play the game at least once... but after then run all you want but it is up to you how you want to play the game.

@ Ken Dei - Anet made a game that allowed all methods of playing. Anet is not against running as long as it's not too "easy". Running allows for targeting of elite skills for use with PvP. Also notice how the collector items are duplicated in Souther Shiver peaks and Crystal Desert. It also allows you to get the better stuff and blaze through the early stuff easier once you have done more then twice. It's also still the same challange once you hit southern shiver peaks.

At least with C1 - PvP and PvE. If you start in one it doesn't prepare you for the other all that well either.

Silent Kitty · Apr 18, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

/rant

Droks looks like a shopping mall to newbies. They probably worked very hard in pre-sear (I did), to get the money for armour and runes. They walk out of town, to test their stuff, and notice they are still a one-hit kill. "Okay, no problem. I just need better skills and exp.", the newbie thinks. Because they have that uber armour, they join on missions that are way over their head, pissing off more experienced players. Some will quit, because the game looks to hard for them, and other go back to ascalon. Once you are in Ascalon with Droks stuff, you get easily bored, because everything is way to easy. Yet you still have to do it.

End of the story often turns out to be a bad experience. Runners don't know it, but they are slowly destroying the game. Don't come to me with all that "This is my millionth character" crap. You have had your days. Right now you are luring newbies in a trap, which many never get out again. Don't tell me that you always ask if this is their first time. I don't believe you. I sometimes join runs for fun (With a newwly created character), and this has never been asked to me.
I am getting tired of all this "Once a noob did this to me!", because many of these noobs are being run to where they messed up your gameplay. They didn't expect the game still being hard, with their uber Droks stuff.
I am talking from experience. Every time when I encounter someone who acts stupid, I see him/her as the victim of a runner.

Runners pretend to give people easy solutions, while they actually make the game harder on people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is your millionth character. First of all, I don't care, and second, I don't believe you. You probably leached your way to the Grotto, just to tell everybody here in this forum how good you are. Stop farming the UW all the time, and do something productive. Your knowledge means nothing to me, if you keep on running newbies though the game or tell me how to farm a certain area.

Why not get off your high horse and teach people to play the whole game? Tag them along on missions, with a character of same lvl? No, you rather show off your uber-leet barage Ranger, who is only good for farming certain areas.
And please don't get me started on how you farmers get the item drops nerved, so it will become harder on newbies to find stuff. I can do missions for hours, without finding one single coloured drop.

/rant

Gmr Leon · Apr 18, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

You could sort of call me a crusader against runners,although I don't wish to start any kind of arguments I prefer to get people to try first then get a runner.

Usually when I hear someone saying something like "I need a runner" or "Looking for a runner to/through [town] [mission]". I say,you can get anywhere without a runner,it's called putting forth an effort. If the person has played the game through once I apologize and get on with what I was doing.

Seriously though the number of people who get runs that haven't played through the game are in my opinion lazy and aren't playing the game. It's their loss though and not mine.

zakaria · Apr 18, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Silent Kitty and Ken Dei said everything here

widowdaballa · Apr 18, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherno

Not everyone you see getting run is playing through their first time. Don't assume that just because someone is getting run that they don't know how to play. I believe you are probably mostly right however, it is just ill advised to make generalizations in that manner.

I do agree that it is getting harder and harder to get groups to actually play in certain towns (Sanctum Cay, Elona Reach, Riverside Province) because of the number of runners. But you don't have to wait too long usually.

But then again my friend, I highly doubt they'll play all 4 or even a 2nd character as the same primary and secondary profession. The OP has a better point to say them getting run ruins they competence in their profession. I have a W/X, a Mo/X, a R/X, a E/X, and a N/Me im working on now, the other 3 spots on my 2nd account are still unmade. What if I were to make a Me/X and get out of pre-searing lvl 1, get run to drok's and get drok's armor, then get on here and have a Me/X build spoonfed to me, go back ingame and BUY all the skills that i need, then go back and play the game? Sure i'll make it thru ascalon like nothing, but Shiverpeaks on up is another ball game. I won't know how to help my teammates or survive because I haven't learned how to play my profession effectively.

So taking your quote above, I can see why he makes that assumption, or generalization. Playing in the lower levels with max armor and weapons and skills is child's play, but once he gets to mid to high level areas, he will get creamed.

Makkert · Apr 18, 2006, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Runners are a great addition to GW. period.
For veteran players, they can be a way to relieve some unnecessary extra grind/ time spend.
For new players, they can be a way to catch up with other players in this game by buying Droks armor faster and have an easier time then the players that played without end-game armor through the PvE storyline.

And I doubt 'we'll have less noobs'. They still would have the same amount of experience, just not maybe not be present at Southern Shiverpeaks. But even that is debatable, as many 'experienced' players are so clueless still it hurts.

~ Makkert

Lord Cooper · Apr 18, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28

^runner^

Ctb · Apr 18, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

I'll think I'll create my first wammo tonight.

Silent Kitty, you need a run!?

:-b

/duck

Silent Kitty · Apr 18, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

I'll think I'll create my first wammo tonight.

Silent Kitty, you need a run!?

:-b

/duck

No need to duck. I am talking from personal experience. I have been ran, and if I wasn't so lazy, I would have deleted this char and start a new Silent Kitty. I have started a new character, which is now on its way to Henravi (LV19). Need any help there?

GUE Tech · Apr 18, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

It's not like we are launching the space shuttle here. Everyone acts like playing any of these professions is rocket science.

Here is what you do:

1. Create character
2. Get runs
3. While getting run read the builds section on GWG
4. Get a power leveler if you can't level yourself
5. Enjoy your new level 20 whatever.

I do recommend playing through at least once though.
If you are in a good guild, it really doesn't matter what the other players are doing anyways.

Morgana · Apr 18, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52

I've gotten two characters to lvl 20, and been playing for--according to /age--two months. I usually only get run if I'm getting really annoyed with a certain co-op mission, or if I've had nothing but bad experiences on it with a previous character.

I try to do most of the skills quests, though, so I don't have to buy as many skills.

FyrFytr998 · Apr 18, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

I think the OP needs to pay for a run to an English Teacher. Unless it's his second language, then he's forgiven. Well not really, but whatever.

Other than that. People really need to remember, it's just a game for crying out loud! I can just envision some of the people here yelling at their computer screens while the responded with their impassioned views, lol. Goodness sakes.

If the game is that bad due to its social interaction. Then go play a single player RPG like Elderscrolls. Poof!, no more noobs.